Rubrik is the surprise unicorn that focuses on data protection. They've made many waves by challenging DellEMC Datadomain's dominance in disk-based backup. Rubrik Chief Technologist, Chris Wahl is a frequent speaker on the VMUG circuit. The Rubrik marketing team has quietly hired a all-star list of influencers to work in tech marketing. Mark challenges Chris on Rubrik's role in the cloud powered DC. In classic Chris-form, Chris makes a strong argument for Rubrik's approach to data protection. Keith also trys the push the limits of Rubrik's API with crazy use cases for cloud native applications using secondary data.